rules be damned

the whinning is sooo old ,, I dare anyone to build any type of twin cylinder Pro stock with a displacement equal to a suzuki and run a "bump spot" number ,, cant be done , wont happen , Byron or George would if they could have ,,you run the # with legal fuel,induction , and the lightest PS legal weight and I'll kiss your bu++ on any Main street for Matt Polito's camera and burn my webtv ,,, simple science of 2 vs 4cyl , making wine (whine) is more difficult to explain

Isn't this one of the guys that was complaining about 1/2" in brake rotor diameter?

Scott

Edited by PM720 - 11 June 2008 at 2:21am

since suzuki builds a v-twin engine,why dont they run that in pro stock and we`ll see how it does.

no argument there,with everyone complaining about the twins "advantage",it would be interesting to see suzuki run a v-twin.

the rules can be changed,ask the nhra about that

To be totally fair to all sides, it is kind of sad to see NHRA going the way it is going,but that's show biz.... Alot of us came from the days of NHRA's biggest job was taking care of, and regulating SO MANY classes, keeping track of engine combo's, weight breaks,class records, etc,..(I'm talkin' 60's, cars..)it was a governing body to make sure everybody had rules to go by,a way of organizing what was already there...it was a club that was cool to be in.....you always wanted to see more on TV, videos...national exposure. You can buy that type of exposure, but it isn't cheap. Once the evil spiral of more exposure,more money,more sponsors started, I'm sure it was hard to look back. Impossible, evidently. When you prove to have a market for your product,an audience, a buying public....it's not a sport anymore, the value of that fanbase is a comodity, a traded market item. Winston knew the value of that market, and NHRA wishes it had the extra cash they had then, now. Harley Davidson did what had to be done to buy into that market. I don't hold anything against them, when you get down to dollars and sense. They've spent tons of money to look good in that market,and that's how you're judged in the world arena of marketing. They want to go down in history as dominating the class. Suzuki,or any other inline four manufacturer,really don't seem to have interest in dominating a drag race class at the moment. Time will tell.      

 

Originally posted by dusterdude since suzuki builds a v-twin engine,why dont they run that in pro stock and we`ll see how it does.

Believe it or not that has already been inquired about & NHRA said NO! Go figure! Ray.

Originally posted by PM720 Isn't this one of the guys that was complaining about 1/2" in brake rotor diameter? Scott

that was about an AHDRA rule , about 2" , and a host of other issues ,,, this is ALL ABOUT the simple science of a twin (of any style) running heads-up with a 4 cylinder ,, the issue of displacement advantage ,,, the Vtwins have no displacment advantage , they have an increase in displacement to offset a cumlative cylinder dissadvantage that effects american born bikes racing in an american born form of racing and this only truely pertains to a point series contested in north america ,,, and puulllleezze don't forget the suz-cheese to go with the wine    "saki?"    

Originally posted by APE Jay When we ask for 225 CI for our new billet thumper pro stock motor, you will be the first one to cry foul. Jay

Jay , my bike is most likely to hit the track long before you/APE campaign a purpose-built dragbike ,,, but I'll be your #1 fan the day you do   

"Oh wait, I know why, because HD & Buell bought the NHRA.  If ya can't beat em, buy em!

Seems to me that Hardly Ableson is afraid that if they had some true competition they would be loosing every round again."

  Now you're gettin' it......just like what happened when Honda kicked their ass in flat tracking.   It's not weather you win or lose, it's who paid the most money to say they won.

  The whole V-twin vs. inline four could be made more interesting if NHRA took the time to run seperate classes for them...PSVT  (pro stock v-twin) and PSI4 (pro stock inline, or import 4 cyl.).   What they're doing now is like running a V8 pro stock Cobalt against a Pro FWD Cobalt....no contest. But, the hero in the movies never dies, and the biggest spender usually wins..

  And about that leveling the playing field by letting Suzuki enter their V-twin...Do you think Harley paid all that good money for a level playing field? Snap out of it, man....(like before, Honda proved that they built a superior V-twin in the 80's, I'm sure they remember, and won't let that happen again..)

Edited by Tim Rinkerman - 13 June 2008 at 4:52pm