Why are Turbos being dropped from PM?

actually, turbos blow.

I think that the reason is, someone followed the rules built a turbo that sent the nitrous guys running for cover. They couldnt beat Rob with the juice so they beat him with the rule book.

The same thing happened in WERA F-USA, it always claimed to be an all out, run what you brung series. Until a twin turbo CBR 900 showed up and started winning. They outlawed him too.

Way to go for the muzzy team. You scared them so bad that outlawed you.  you really didnt have a chance to get it totally sorted out either. That was an awsome bike to be sure.

I hate to see someone inovate within the rulze and then get screwed like this.

Riceburner is right. Muzzy's advantage was not from the turbo but from a well built racebike.  This remind me of the AMA Superbike Ducati 888 a couple of years back. It was built to the rules, started winning, and the other team cried....so they changed the rules and started adding weight to the Ducati.

But was the debut of Muzzy's Pro-Mod the beginning of the end for Turbo PM bikes? Are did I miss something that happen earlier or a couple of years ago that started this Anti-Turbo PM stuff?

They did the same thing to Crippen with his intercooled turbo.

This is (I think) the FB that Perry Hollie has been running for a couple of years. Still a first-rate piece.

Most everyone has made some good points and I appreciate their thoughts.

It may be a bit too earlier to say, but what are the Turbo PM guys planning on doing next year? What does Prostar hope these guys will do? Surely they don't what them to drop out of the series. That would be truly sad. I'm a turbo guy and would like to see anyone with a turbo bike have a place to race. The Texas Shootout, which I'm proud to say that I involved with, will have a Open Class next year. Of the several riders planning to particapate, the majority are turbo bikes. Contact CD Watson if anyone (NOS included) wants to come play with us.

Nemsis makes a good point - looks like SBS is next to be turbo free.

Nothing againt the turbo bikes, teams, or riders for what I'm about to say...especially Tim B. (I like ya man!)

Pro-Mod is the most competitive pro class. There are consistantly more entries at every race. There is always a full field competing for 16 spots. Every pair down the strip is virtually a toss-up. And to say that there isn't money spent on a NOS bike is a joke.

The turbo bikes will come out and bust out a killer number. This might happen 1 out of every 4 passes. Note the Muzzy turbo when Ryan took the #1 spot in qualifying on the ONLY pass the bike left the starting line that weekend. This is not the consistancy that fans enjoy. This is exactly the consistancy in funnybike. Look how funnybike has struggled. The most consistant funnybikebike, and consistantly fast bike is probably the simplest setup (John/Travis Davis)...who won the championship.

Now everyone says that the PM NOS guys are crybabies. Why don't they want the turbo bikes in the class. Do you think it's solely because all the NOS guys think the turbo has a competitive advantage? I think it more related to KEEPING the most consistant competitve class alive, not turning it into a political never-ending rules revision class so that a few bikes can lay down a good pass here and there. The fact is, there is a class already for the turbo bikes, it's called Funnybike. Heck it's WAY easier to qualify in Funnybike than PM anyway. Consider that the #17 qualifier at the WF in PM would have qualified #6 in FB. There has been improvement PM performance over the past few years. If you are only looking at the ET to make a huge jump that's very nearsighted. There are MORE bikes entering the class every year. Why? Because it's easy to race in PM? No, because PM hasn't suffered the never-ending rules changes that have killed entries in other classes...SBS...HRC...TE.

As a summary, the point I am trying to make is that technology is not always the means to strengthen a sport, but common sense and consistancy are.

Just my .02.

Scott