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    Posted: 04 November 2009 at 3:39pm

Can anyone tell me which is better to start dragracing with a 06 busa that I already have or go with the more horsepower 08 which i'm prepared to buy.  And know this is not my first bike and i've been riding for at least 15 years.  Will it be cheaper to get a 08 going fast compared to getting a 06 up to speed with the 08.  Thanks for the help.
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If you get an 06 busa for 5K you can get it to run low 9's for another 3K (Swing arm, Airshifter, PCIII, NOS, Intake Cam, Exhaust). So you will only have 8K in the whole thing.
 
An 08 Busa would set you back around 9 or 10 and run in the low 9's with hardly anything.
 
The question is, do you want to work on the 06 Busa then race or just spend a little more on an 08 and go race?
It is too bad bench racing is not measureable. That way someone would win.
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the earlier busa has a better trans in it for racing...depends how fast you are going to go..08 has the longer stroke...little more hp out of the box...tough call...pros and cons both ways..
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You could get the Gen 1 for a good price, then put all the good stuff in it.

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What Jay said, I put almost all of his stuff in my bike.
It is too bad bench racing is not measureable. That way someone would win.
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Keep you 06 and boost it !
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Lonnie, can you PM me?  I'm not seeming to be able to get PM's to you...
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Originally posted by bigkawhuna

the earlier busa has a better trans in it for racing...depends how fast you are going to go..08 has the longer stroke...little more hp out of the box...tough call...pros and cons both ways..
What makes the early model transmission better for racing ?
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Grady ,
If you already have the 06 Busa, you dont have to put alot into it to be ahead of the 08 Busa. A bolt on stage one turbo kit for your 06 will put you way ahead of a stock 08 and still be 100% streetable.
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Grady ,
If you already have the 06 Busa, you dont have to put alot into it to be ahead of the 08 Busa. A bolt on stage one turbo kit for your 06 will put you way ahead of a stock 08 and still be 100% streetable.
 
100% sreetable if you consider spinning the back tire everytime you give it a moderate amount of throttle streetable. At least that what mine does...
It is too bad bench racing is not measureable. That way someone would win.
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Jay can you send me a poster of that photo so I can put in my trailer and drool ????
 
Keep the 06 and with a few power adders you'll be right there and it'll be a lot cheaper.
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Originally posted by badhabit1300

Can anyone tell me which is better to start dragracing with a 06 busa that I already have or go with the more horsepower 08 which i'm prepared to buy.  And know this is not my first bike and i've been riding for at least 15 years.  Will it be cheaper to get a 08 going fast compared to getting a 06 up to speed with the 08.  Thanks for the help.

I went through a similar situation.  The 08 with a Brock's Pipe and good tune is pretty close to a GEN1 with Head and Cams.  Are you going to sell your 06 if you buy an 08?  Is your 06 currently setup to Drag Race or do you still need to stretch, lower, gear, pipe, pc, etc.?
 
If you haven't set the 06 up yet, I would sell it and find an 08 that is already set up.  I have an 03 that runs much faster that my 09 but at the expense of reliablilty.  You can run low 9's or high 8's depending on your weight with a bone stock motor Gen2.  It is a great feeling to be at the track worry free because you are running a stock motor.  No need to monitor A/F ratio like your life depends on it, pay extra for race gas, make map changes between passes, checking nitrous bottle pressure, etc.
 
So let us know if you are going to sell the 06 if you buy an 08 and if you have the 06 set up to race.
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That is so true about having minimal worries and still run some nice #s,  once you've decided that you need a faster bike , buy another one and put your money into it and then when the " Fast Bike " is broken, ( which will most likely be the case ) you can take your almost stock, reliable " Fast Bike That Runs " to the track and look back at the thousands of dollars you spent on the bike at home and wonder " Why did I do that ", thats happened to more then a few.
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Originally posted by 2bking1320

That is so true about having minimal worries and still run some nice #s,  once you've decided that you need a faster bike , buy another one and put your money into it and then when the " Fast Bike " is broken, ( which will most likely be the case ) you can take your almost stock, reliable " Fast Bike That Runs " to the track and look back at the thousands of dollars you spent on the bike at home and wonder " Why did I do that ", thats happened to more then a few.

AMEN to that! Cracking my motor open was definetly like making a deal with the Devil.  It's great when you are out there going fast but sooner or later you will have to pay the piper!
 
I'm trying to make my current motor last as long as possible but now I have a bike that I try not to put that many runs on and I'm paranoid every time I hear the slightest bit of engine noise.  Where is the fun in that????
 
Unfortuneately I need some extra hp because I weigh 270lbs.  Running a stock motor GEN1 will only get me to about a 9.6 - 9.7 and a GEN2 I can see a 9.3 - 9.4 assuming everything is set up properly.  But if I was around 160lbs I would definitely stick with a stock GEN2 and run 8.9 - 9.0 @ 152 - 153mph and have a ball!
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I know ( and I've did it myself ) more people that tear down a perfectly running 9.0- 9.4 bike and buy 3 - 5 thousand worth of parts and infearior labor and go slower or no performance gain, and never have a realiable bike again. Your far better off leaving your motor alone buying another bike or at least motor, pay a QUALIFIED person to build, Dyno and somewhat point you in the right direction. NEVER pay a person you know nothing about to do anything, if they don't have a Dyno ( my opinion ) then thats not a good choice and just because they have a Dyno dosen't mean they know what there doing . I could buy a Dyno and BLOW up EVERY bike that was ever strapped to it. Know WHO your dealing with..........
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Just looking through some old threads and wanted to give an update.  My 03 Busa blew up the first day I took it to the track in March of this year.  I've been running my stock motor 09 ever since and doing well.
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