Wheelie Bar or Extended Swingarm (Bracket Racing)

I have a 2009 Hayabusa with a Brocks Alien Head Pipe and lowered.  Everything else is stock.  I'm setting the bike up to Bracket race and I'm trying to decide if it is best to stretch the bike or get a wheelie bar and use a 2-step.

It's kind of a toss-up, really.  When all is said and done, the bar bike should be more consistent, but that presumes a lot of very effective setup.  The bar does shock the chassis and can unload the tire, so setup becomes critical. 

Anyone else switch to a wheelie bar bike after running a stock or strecthed streetbike?

i pretty much parked my bar top gas bike this year and started running 2 no bar bikes 1 in street fighter and et and the other one in top gas.at this point im a little more at home on the no bar bike.i don't think that you can just bolt on a set of bars on a stock busa and go. the bolt on the sets that i have seen the top bolt connects behind the passenger foot peg bracket that is part of the bolt on sub frame and the bottom bolts to the swing arm thats alluminum .looks to me that there would be a lot of flex. as for the bike still being streetable what about the strut that would have to be installed to go along with the wheelie bars?also i don't know how well a short stock wheel base would launch.may be the better option would be to put the bars on your streathed 03.just my 2 cents.good luck with want ever way you go.dave

Originally posted by RIDEHARD Do you have to use a strut with a wheelie bar?  This one bolts on a little differently than what you are describing. See below....  Thanks for the good info....

that looks like a good set up but i would think that you would still need a strut but i would'nt know for sure.you could always try it and see.i remember SID POUGE tryed wheelie bars with a shock on his gpz1100 pro stocker back in the eighties .

YES, You will need to put a strut on also......No way a shock would work with a strut....

It seems to me that a "properly setup" bar bike has the advantage over a stretched bike.  The question is, am I willing to set it up properly which would mean going to strut and maybe a flat slick tire.  Now the bike wouldn't be streetable which defeats my purpose.

I was almost sold on the wheelie bar but now it looks like extending the bike may be better and just have 2 chains handy so I can switch back to stock length when I want to ride on the street.

 

At this rate I'll need 3 bikes to be happy:

 

1)No Bar fast bike

2)Bracket Bike with Wheelie bar

3)Stock Length Street Bike

 

Big Boys with Big Toys............

Originally posted by Bill Hahn Jr. Don't forget the fourth one: Funnybike or ProMod with HUGE tire and big POWER!

I ride my 12"over ZX12 on the street on a regular basis.....I don`t see you having any prob.`s with it being stretched.....I have 2 seats, a carbon fiber race seat and a Corbin seat for street riding....

Originally posted by Bill Hahn Jr. One other subtle aspect...high-powered streetbikes such as turbos or big N20 shots can suffer from too much additional length, as their ability to transfer weight to the rear wheel is diminished the longer you go on the arm.    Like anything else, a good balance can be found, so match the arm to the task at hand...longer is not always better.

Exactly....That`s were a good suspension  setup comes in handy....