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    Posted: 23 September 2009 at 12:12am
Who out there has one or maybe races one?
 
Geek are you going to build one?


Edited by Wade Clark - 23 September 2009 at 12:14am
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  Quote JeffMarsh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 1:12am
Scotty Polacheck rides one and I believe he has been 7.90 It's called the KillaCycle
It makes so much torque and it weighs quite a bit. Was talking to him a week ago
and he said they were getting new batteries and it would drop 150lbs. It uses submarine DC steering motors. Search u-tube for killacycle or electric drag bike. You can even see the design engineer do a burnout and launch it into the side of a van. Effed him all up,  He's ok now though-think he underestimated his work.
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  Quote 2QK4U Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 8:37am

Seen video's of it a BUNCH of times.. that'd be sweet...bring it up there and KICK JEFF'S ARSE!!!  Wink

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  Quote T. Bix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 9:55am
My money's on Mark (Geek) to build one as soon as he finishes his dyno!!
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  Quote Fasthouse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 10:23am
2.1.4 ENGINE TYPES
Must be an  accepted stock-type engine specifically designed and manufactured for production motorcycle use. Snowmobile engines permitted in PET. Automobile, aircraft or marine engines are prohibited. Any new concept must be submitted to the Tech Department for approval prior to competition.
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Most sanctions have a rule like this......
 
Wouldnt an electric dragbike only be legal in an "all electric" sanction?
I was taking to a guru, who was spittin' out some who do, and this hoodoo was no voodoo..... but a blessing in disguise
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 10:42am

Drag Racing in the year 2084:

As environmental concerns have all but eliminated petroleum-based fuel use, Drag Racing is now an all-electric sport, fueled by the now-numerous nuclear reactors.  The USA, in the early part of this century, pioneered a revolutionary form of nuclear energy that consumes its own waste, thereby unlocking the globe from oil dependency.  This innovation also put the US economy on its most explosive trajectory ever as it tooled up to supply the world with this cheap, safe energy source.
 
The most controversial new development by the EHRA (Electric Hot Rod Association) is their amazing "trolley wire system".   Taking a cue from the urban trolley buses and commuter trains of the 20th century, new tracks are being built with technology that allows the racing vehicles to gobble power from overhead wires using spring-loaded pickups instead of relying on cumbersome, heavy batteries.  Taking battery weight out of the vehicles has resulted in breathtaking leaps of performance!
 
Fifth-generation racer Ashley Hood-Hines-Schumaker-Force Jr.  has already broken the once-impossible 1 second bracket with this astounding new technology.  Her patented Anti G-force Capsule allows her to not only endure such acceleration with ease, its time-decompression mode enables her to also perform in-car interviews duing each pass.  No ancient HANS device here! 
 
But like any new innovation, its time in the sun may be short.  The talk of MAGLEV vehicles, shot like electric projectiles, is on the horizon...
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  Quote geek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 11:26am

It will be an outlaw class for all the cool geeks and tree hugging hippies. 

 
I don't look to the current sanctions like AMA, NHRA and IHRA to step up to the plate any time soon.  They are not green friendly.    I am guessing that the bread and butter of the drag strips is still from the local levels.  If people start showing up with their electric cars, I doubt they or their money will be turned away.   As the local interest grows, the sanctions rather than lead, will follow along.   
 
I think it will be the younger generation that is going to make this happen.  Would be nice to promote something to help guide them, but again I don't see it.    An electric Jr. could be built pretty simple.  They have to be slow to begin with anyway.  Seems like a perfect fit. 
 
 
I welcome the change! 
 
 
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  Quote geek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 11:35am

Hummm, 2085 the tracks may not be paved.  I can see it all now,  Norwalk who seems to be known for their stick will be known for thier super high force density magnets.  The cars will hover above the tracks surface like a rail train.   Engines may be nothing more than a magnet shifting system.    Imagine the power stored in the track rather than the cars that run on them.  Rather than trying to make a car with more power, you try to make a car that can use the power built into the tracks surface. 

Yea, a crazy thought.   If you ever get a chance to watch the Michigan Mad Man's home videos do so.  There is some footage of his slot car on it.  Way ahead of his time.
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  Quote W. Baxter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 12:06pm
This month's Motorcylist Magazine is almost exclusively filled with articles on electric bikes and electric bike racing.  Isle of Man, EMotoGP, Etc.   Cool stuff. 
 
 
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  Quote geek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2009 at 2:52pm

Silent but quick.  1/4 mile in 14.705 seconds @ 84.78 MPH
-Bidwell's Badvolts drag bike on the line.  Badvolts is one of El Choppers ancestors.

Cycles are a lifelong passion for John.  He's played with them in various forms for 42 years.  He even raced one on Pikes Peak!

In recent years John got into lightweight electric transit devices, which have now become his forte.

For the last 3 years he’s been involved with the NEDRA (National Electric Drag Racing Association) with his "Badvolts" motorcycle.  In 2001 his wife Debbie used Badvolts to set the NEDRA record for the 144V motorcycle division.  The record held for 2 years until it fell earlier this summer.

With all that and 6 years of Electrathon racing experience, a BSME, a MSME, you should figure out that John knows how to build electric vehicles that go fast!

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  Quote Admin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 September 2009 at 5:42am
We're all for the electric(s). It's a little pre-mature to have a championship class for electrics, but they would be welcomed to race in any ET/Index class.

The A123 stuff seems to be pretty impressive to say the least.
When its all said and done, there is usually a lot more said than done.
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  Quote 2bking1320 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 September 2009 at 7:56am
Wouldn't a slot car type track be the "Answear". But the friction might "hold you back". Wouldn't have to worry about crossing center line, drifting from center. John Force, in his last made for TV outburst was trying to address this very Topic when Pedergon interupted with his opinion/factual statements about going up in smoke. Mr. Force was about to proclaim his innocence when reality set in so the above mentioned "Outburst" occured. Crew Chief "Coil" later avoided controversy with annoucement that a third cousin removed twice of Dr. Tesla would be on board for last 3 races of 2009 season. Making way for the "Next Generation" of drag racing inovation. Interest or lack of it will also minimize this electric wave, seeing something different will be intially interesting then the cost to do this will be like a 1974 calculator, crazy.
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  Quote Wade Clark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 September 2009 at 8:23am
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We're all for the electric(s). It's a little pre-mature to have a championship class for electrics, but they would be welcomed to race in any ET/Index class.

The A123 stuff seems to be pretty impressive to say the least.
 
 
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  Quote 2bking1320 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 September 2009 at 8:50am

To become one of the richest guys in the world heres all you would have to do........ Solve the problem of drag vs HP loss to operate alternators on these electric vechicles. Will have to or at least in my mind be electricaly driven as in computer chip not interia as to minimize Drag and Hp loss. How to not cost power to produce it, or more production then loss. I have had two ideas on this and Don Garlits shot me down on both, but at least got his attention. So can you boys with enginnering minds figure this out? Try!!!!!!

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  Quote geek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:42am
I wonder if I modified a bicycle to be electric and it could make 15 second passes, could this be run in ET?   Would I need a motorcycle or bicycle helmet?    I am not sure why the Feds would limit an electric bicycle to 20MPH but I wonder if my Giant, with all its composite parts be stable at 100MPH?    May need to do something with the breaks.
 
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I don't see it going away. 
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  Quote 1428Zuk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2009 at 10:32am
I can understand the the fascination with the electric idea, but how many people go to the races to hear the noise of  well tuned engines, smell the nitro or race fuel burning, and to feel the rumble or ground shake.
 
I know without those qualities, I probably wouldn't even go. I guess me and my buddies could hook cable tachs to power drills and race those.Clown
 
 
4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions!
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  Quote geek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2009 at 11:35am
As for spectators, I don't know about your track but the ones I go to are dead except for the big events.  Even when AMA ran here, few spectators showed.  Personally, I believe that was a lack of marketing more than anything.    People seldom attend E/T races.     If your thinking it would hurt the number of racers that turn out, I don't see how.    It's just something different to ride and play with is all.
 
Would be cool to see an unlimited electric class.  To prevent it from being a $$$ game, you could always have the for sale rule.  What a twist.    I would consider building something for this.    Available resale price would cap the speed and times.    
 
So Scott, do you see a rule change for AMA to spell out electric in the near future?   
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  Quote Fasthouse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2009 at 4:10pm
 Electric index bike might just be the ticket....
 
Throw the weatherstaion out the window!!
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  Quote Paulcav Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2009 at 4:32pm
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I can understand the the fascination with the electric idea, but how many people go to the races to hear the noise of  well tuned engines, smell the nitro or race fuel burning, and to feel the rumble or ground shake.
 
I know without those qualities, I probably wouldn't even go. I guess me and my buddies could hook cable tachs to power drills and race those.Clown
 
That is what speakers are for...
It is too bad bench racing is not measureable. That way someone would win.
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  Quote EM CYCLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:31pm
I've built one,a 1986 600 Ninja. 

Edited by Wade Clark - 25 September 2009 at 11:49pm
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