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  Quote John Davis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2009 at 8:07am
Man I love those old school F/B pictures, that low long slinky look is what lit my fire to build a competive bike. Poppa JDCool
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  Quote DRAGBIKE! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2009 at 9:30pm
If memory serves, this is an early version of Sorcerer. that tire is too skinny to be the one on the last version I saw run...I think.
Maybe I am wrong, but I surely think that the final rear tire was at least 25% wider. Someone give me some details.
Also, wow. Look at those skinny guys. How do they do it.?
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  Quote APE Jay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 October 2009 at 5:48pm
They did a wider tire upgrade, but Elmer said it wasn't enough.

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  Quote Marc Powe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 October 2009 at 6:18pm
Originally posted by John Davis

Man I love those old school F/B pictures, that low long slinky look is what lit my fire to build a competive bike. Poppa JDCool
 
I agree !  Old or new.........the Funnybike always looks good. 
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  Quote glenn owen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 October 2009 at 7:29pm
nice pic barnjob  jim lineweber  rider
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  Quote glenn owen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 October 2009 at 7:32pm
barnjob  is 1949 vincent    ran 186  in lacr
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  Quote DRAGBIKE! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 October 2009 at 10:14pm
Hooray! I knew that it looked anemic in the rubber dept. Elm was right..that "TAR" ( Elmerspeak for tire) was doing just about as much slipping as gripping even in the bigger size. There comes a time in  racing development  of a particular machine when one just cannot obtain wheel-tire size enough to stick with the original frame design and then...... when you have to take frame changes beyond "tweak"....one had better have a sympathetic accountant...and /or wife. Perhaps that contributed to the drydocking.
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OTE=APE Jay]They did a wider tire upgrade, but Elmer said it wasn't enough.

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  Quote DRAGBIKE! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 October 2009 at 10:23pm

I saw it do it. I will never be the same.

Can you imagine what that thing could do if the tire
ever caught up with the mill?
 Some mathematician get busy and do the numbers to figure out how fast it would go with a five mile run up at a flying mile at Bonneville !!!
DOLAN !
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  Quote Marc Powe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2009 at 8:56am
Here is a cool pic from Barry Taylor  (From the land down under).
 
Pic Taken in Acto...........Anybody recognize this Nitro Injected FB Honda Wink?
 
 
 
 


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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2009 at 11:13am
Is it from John Sands?
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  Quote UltimateKawboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2009 at 11:43am
This thread is like a time tunnel. Fascinating!!! Does anyone have access to any old record books to associate the bikes and year / time / et?
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  Quote JimCollura Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2009 at 6:44pm
Tom,
 
The International Match Race was at Atco, NJ in mid 1978. I have some other pictures, but I'm having a hard time downloading them.
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  Quote DRAGBIKE! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2009 at 8:05pm
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Tom,
 
The International Match Race was at Atco, NJ in mid 19
Jim , while DRAGBIKE! was still a magazine only and hadn't "gone racing" we title-sponsored this ATCO promoted AMDRA national record event in  July  of 1976. The event needed a title and we sure wanted the promotion. The coverage ran in our Feb 1977 issue, three months before we sanctioned our first meet at LaPlace.
  Atco was the epicenter.
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  Quote Marc Powe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2009 at 9:38pm
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Is it from John Sands?
 
It's got to be.  I can't think of anyone else with an injected nitro Honda with a number 2 FB.
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  Quote Marc Powe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2009 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by UltimateKawboy

This thread is like a time tunnel. Fascinating!!! Does anyone have access to any old record books to associate the bikes and year / time / et?
 
We have general knowledge of the performance of a lot of dragbikes that are posted here.  And, several people here , including myself, have old performance newspapers with e.t.'s and mph numbers etc.
 
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  Quote JimCollura Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2009 at 10:52am
Tom,
 
In '76 for those races I was working as the starter. Jim Harris, Greg Goldt were tech and Roy ran the show under the AMDRA logo. When AMDRA was on the road, we still did the weekly bike drags at Atco and Jill ?????? kind-of ran the show under the Atco name. Then around '76, Harris moved to Kentucky, AMDRA moved to Calif. and Atco did there thing for bikes on there own or with sactions from Dragbike and/or IDBA. I then took over track manager until the last meet in October 1978 and then moved to NC in Jan. '79.
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  Quote DRAGBIKE! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2009 at 10:48pm
A tip of the hat to Greg, and a large man I remember as " Big Joe"....a friendly sort, but imposing. Was his last name Rydzewsiki?
pronounced roe jesky?
If not, I need a tune up.
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  Quote ROYRACEMASTER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2009 at 12:20am
Originally posted by JimCollura

Tom,
 
In '76 for those races I was working as the starter. Jim Harris, Greg Goldt were tech and Roy ran the show under the AMDRA logo. When AMDRA was on the road, we still did the weekly bike drags at Atco and Jill ?????? kind-of ran the show under the Atco name. Then around '76, Jim Harris moved to Kentucky, AMDRA moved to Calif. and Atco did there thing for bikes on there own or with sactions from Dragbike and/or IDBA. I then took over track manager until the last meet in October 1978 and then moved to NC in Jan. '79.
                                                                                                 CoolReal close Jim....I moved AMDRA Hdqtrs fron Md to Ca in Jan 74 in an effort to establish stronger ties with NHRA,  Sponsors, both current and potential,  and broaden the scope of AMDRA to a Full National Association by running Events on "The West Coast Swing"-  3 Tracks, 3 Races, 3 Weeks.   Jim Harris moved to Ky about same time due to requirements of his job, and I think Greg Goldt may have stayed on at Atco after demise of AMDRA,  but I'm not really sure.....Made Travel to so many Events tough (26 in 1976,  13 Rained on or out), but we considered worth the effort.............................................TLJr---Big Joe was main Tower man and Records Keeper (Only guy who had access to a computer at the time)for AMDRAfor several yearsand at end of last AMDRA Season in '76, Joe went with most of the files to Dragbike events to try and keep things going,  as he had membership, license, event, and all other AMDRA Info. He played a very large part in helping you keep things going.  Without Jim Collura, Sweet Jill, and Atco Staff,  local monthly Bike Only Races at Atco tracks would never have continued, as Atco ownership was going through some heavy internal changes.......They all deserve a huge amount of credit for thier efforts........Roy

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  Quote morpowr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2009 at 11:44pm
Reading through a Dec 73 Big Bike it shows TC at both the NHRA Indy race and the AMDRA race on Labor Day weekend.  How'd he do that?   My only guess is he hauled butt from Atco to Indy on sunday since the NHRA raced on Monday, but I'm not sure you can make that trip that fast.
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  Quote ROYRACEMASTER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 October 2009 at 4:46pm
Ermm Question    SORRY MORPOWR,      BUT MY OLD MEMORY CAN'T ANSWER THAT ONE...........BUT YOU MIGHT TRY TO CONTACT T.C. AT SUNSET MOTORS, KENOSHA, WI............I THINK HE IS STILL THERE,  GOOGLE IT FOR PHONE ####.......IF THERE IS AN ANSWER, HE PROBABLY HAS IT......But question brings another question to mind.......How did he QUALIFY for BOTH RACES ON SAME WEEKEND????????????

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